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Orbán, Tokajev, and Our Future
We all have noticed the situation in Kazahsztan, so I won’t go into the details of the demonstrations, the shooting order of president Tokajev, or the Russian invasion. Instead I would like to have a look how the reactions within the EU and especially Hungary are and what others said about the official Hungarian position.
There is a remarkable difference between the reactions on the unrest in Kazahsztan. French president Macron and EU commission president v/d Leyen held a joint press conference. “I call for an end to violence and restraint, the rights and security of citizens are paramount and must be guaranteed,” said Ursula v/d Leyen ►FR. German chancellor Scholz called for an end of violence and said: “of course, this also includes that there mustn’t be violence against the citizens.” The German government stopped all exports of armaments to Kazahsztan ►DE. During the last year have been granted 25 export permissions over a total value of 2.2 million Euro. The Czech Republic later did the same.
Completely different were the statements of the president of Kazahsztan, Tokajev, who claimed that 20 000 armed foreign agents were in the country or that he succeeded in prohibiting a coup d’état. Terrorists and armed bandits were made responsible ►EN. Experts seem to be sure that Tokajev saw a chance to get rid of the still very influential former president Nursultan Nazarbayev and his entourage and jumped onto the train ►EN.
Our regime exactly said the same as Tokajev and Putin, which is diametrically opposed to what the rest of the EU told. Orbán “talked with President Tokayev today and expressed his solidarity and condolences over the many, many casualties and we have offered, of course, our help” foreign minister Szijjártó said ►EN. During a videoconference with the Turk council the minister made further claims ►EN. “Our interests lie in a peaceful and stable Central Asia,” Szijjártó said. “Attempts at destabilisation and coups run completely counter to our security interests, since they end up making more room for acts of terror and the spread of radical and extremist ideologies, which tends to lead to the emergence of large migration waves from various regions.” Szijjártó, who got the honorary doctorate of the Kazah Gumiljov Eurasian National University last year ►HU, repeated the propaganda claims of Tokajev and Putin: “No room should be left for organisations spreading extremist or terrorist ideology” as Szabad Európa quoted our foreign minister ►HU. Again he threatened with a veto in the EU.
There are rumours that Nazarbayev would be in Hungary, while the Hungarian foreign ministry claims ►HU not to know where the former dictator is at this moment.
At the same moment Political Capital published a remarkable article about how much Orbán is serving Russian interests through the eyes of the Russian media. Although not in the direct context of today’s post it shows how much Putin relies on the treason of Orbán against both Hungary and our allies (the formal ones as in EU and NATO.) “Hungary often appears as an instrument of Moscow” is perhaps the clearest possible wording ►EN. No wonder if Orbán sides with Tokajev as well.
From our Czech partners already came heavy headwind, the Czech foreign minister Jan Lipavský wrote: “A president who issues an order to shoot civilians without any warning needs no solidarity. Our solidarity belongs to the people of Kazakhstan” on twitter ►EN. Speaker of the Czech parliament Markéta Pekarová Adamová called to vote Orbán out ►EN after he did his condolences to Tokajev. “Czechs have already driven their Babiš out. I sincerely hope that Hungarians will manage to do it as well,” the speaker wrote. “The entry of the armies of Russia and other states is not good news. All the more so as their goal is to normalise the situation in the country,” said Pavel Fischer, chairman of the Czech foreign committee. “It is all too reminiscent of the unfortunate developments in the Czechoslovak Socialist Republic after the entry of troops in 1968” quotes expat_cz ►EN.
One thing is sure, we have not to expect a Russian invasion again. But this is the only relief we have. If we face demonstrations in case of Orbán falsifying the election results, we definitely know now what we have to expect. Since there are besides the regular armed forces several private armies Orbán has made provisions to be sure that there will be some force remaining, if one or the other unit evades the order. The more important that we will decide clearly on April 3rd, just to make it as unlikely as possible that Orbán takes the risk to bring us into the situation we have seen in Minsk after the last elections or right now in Almaty and the new capital Nur-Sultan. We mustn’t forget that the enrichment of the elites of an authoritarian regime we have seen during the last 12 years has been taken place in Kazahstan as well during the last 30 years. So our situation is not that different at all, I just hope we won’t have to bear the same consequences.
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“Orbán “talked with President Tokayev today and expressed his solidarity and condolences over the many, many casualties and we have offered, of course, our help” foreign minister Szijjártó said ►EN.” Do these Barabs want to send troops to slaughter Kazakhs. Or are they waiting to ask Putin for help after the elections?
An interesting last paragraph. Since Hungary is currently something close to a Trojan Horse for Russia inside NATO there is little reason for Russia to consider invading Hungary. It is hard for me to conceive that the US would even share any strategic planning with Hungary for a possible protracted guerrilla war against Russian occupation forces if any further invasion of Ukraine takes place. But I do know that there is a lot of support for this strategy in Poland and it is discussed on Polvision TV here in Chicago which is closed captioned in English. It has a huge audience here..
As I have heard it on TV coming out of Poland, an invasion of Ukraine can’t be stopped if Putin orders it, but Russian draftees can die constantly and their deaths can not be hidden forever from the Russian families. The longer the death continues the less support for Russian occupation there will be. It a pretty cold blooded approach to Russia and Putin, but the history of the joint Russian Nazis invasion of Poland (called on Polish TV Kampania wrześniowa) casts a long shadow. In fact just the other night there was a program on Polvision about the Slovak Republic’s forces that also invaded Poland.
HVG seems to agree with this post.
So now we have this story https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/14/us-russia-false-flag-ukraine-attack-claim that the Russians have implanted a group of operatives trained in urban warfare and using explosives to carry out acts of sabotage in Ukraine to create a justification for a Russian invasion. But not surprisingly MTI’s report on this (https://magyarnemzet.hu/kulfold/2022/01/washington-szerint-moszkva-urugyet-kreal-ukrajna-megtamadasahoz ) features the Russian spokesperson for Putin saying: ”So far, such reports have proved unfounded, nothing has supported them.” Now I will admit I often have doubted stories and assessments coming from the CIA over the years, the agency which those of us in the US Army often called the “spooks.” But I trust Putin even less that’s for sure.
I would call this “good company” for Putin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleiwitz_incident
Thanks for post. Given the Hungarian regime preference for dictatorships, especially in The Turkic nations, let alone Russia, no surprise. The comments by Czech chair of foreign committee are profoundly on point i.e “reminiscent” of the USSR et al invasion of Czechoslovakia, which like the developments in 1930s, included the Hungarian and Polish regimes of that time period. The post tonight clearly got it correct regarding significance of the invasion for not only the people of Kazakhstan, but for the people of Hungary.
All members of the Dictators Club …
“Dictator’s Reservate” with Gruevszki, Lukasenka, and Nazarbajev
The Szijjarto pronouncements are even more shocking as they are the knee jerk reaction to a foggy situation where few knew what exactly happened. The general discontent aside, an instigation by Tokajev in his rivalry with Nazarbaev seems to be a largely accepted hypothesis, and Nazarbaev fled the country too.
The first reaction of our regime was to not only side with the Kazakh state (sic), but to offer support ! to a regime that just now instructed its armed forces to shoot at civilians without warning. This is unprecedented in post WW2 Europe and offers a glimpse into the dark and depraved minds of Orban’s regime which accepts shooting civilians if their regime even slightly threatened (which the Tokajev one was probably not).
Even if the crowd included hooligans or looters, that still couldn’t justify the above actions. Note that the Orban crowd still decry the rubber bullet “eye gouging Gyurcsány government” (a single incident during the Fidesz instigated riots and putsch attempt of 2006), while siding with the killing of more than a hundred civilians.
The full Szijjarto statement was:
“We know from experience exactly what happens in the international political arena at such times: usually the so-called human rights organizations come, certain countries come, international organizations come, and they want to make all kinds of criticisms and adopt condemnatory statements. I believe that this must be stopped now, that it has no place here.”
https://index.hu/belfold/2022/01/11/szijjarto-peter-emberi-jogvedok-kazahsztan-kaszim-zsomart-tokajev-eu-v4/
In other words: there is no place for anyone in the world to check out what’s going on here, what we (dictators) are doing (oppressing, depriving, beating, imprisoning and finally shooting any critics, opponents or protesters). And if some of these entities, organizations or countries attempt to question, investigate, let alone criticize our crimes, they have to be stopped right away (by shooting or at least poisoning them too?).
Fascism it is folks, in a moderate stage still, but you can see the “vision”, the trajectory we are on.