February 15, 2024

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tappanch
tappanch
February 15, 2024 01:49

“The US has new intelligence on Russian military capabilities related to its efforts to deploy a nuclear anti-satellite system in space, according to multiple sources familiar with the intelligence.”

“an anti-satellite weapon placed in orbit around Earth would pose a significant danger to US nuclear command and control satellites […] The US relies on such satellites – which he called “essential” – to ensure constant, seamless control over its nuclear arsenal.”

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/02/14/politics/house-intel-chairman-serious-national-security-threat/index.html

Don Kichote
Don Kichote
February 15, 2024 15:31
Reply to  tappanch

One thought is that if you shoot down a satellite then the debris will cause a chain reaction, or not. Sooner or later all satellites would be affected.

Don Kichote
Don Kichote
February 15, 2024 15:41

„Fact: despite the pro-family policies, the number of births in Hungary reached a new low in 2023, with only 8.9 births per 1000 people (orange line)“

Fact is that Hungarian policy is not pro-family but anti-Roma families. One of many laws that discriminate against Roma. But it doesn’t bother a single white Hungarian.

Reader
Reader
February 15, 2024 16:48
Reply to  Don Kichote

Agree on the policy aspect, but there are many bothered white Hungarians.

Don Kichote
Don Kichote
February 15, 2024 18:00
Reply to  Reader

What political aspect?

Reader
Reader
February 15, 2024 18:25
Reply to  Don Kichote

Policy, not political.

Don Kichote
Don Kichote
February 15, 2024 18:58
Reply to  Reader

Have I already told you that I used to give my opinion in a mixed racist Hungarian German-language blog? There were always the same reactions when untrue claims were refuted. “You wouldn’t understand that because it’s all so complicated”. Racism and other oppression is not complicated.

Last edited 2 months ago by Don Kichote
Reader
Reader
February 16, 2024 08:27
Reply to  Don Kichote

That maybe so. Please share your evidence for ‘But it doesn’t bother a single white Hungarian’.

Don Kichote
Don Kichote
February 16, 2024 10:17
Reply to  Reader

I remember when Balog was appointed Secretary of State for Roma Affairs in Hungary, his Fidesz colleagues expressed their sorry for him. 😀 They probably knew what it meant for Balog. When he later said in an interview, “Only after a real catharsis [of the Roma] can we talk rationally about trying to find a solution.” That was in 2012. Surely you know the Kallia report that proves official racism. Or do you know Karácsony, who said in his defense that racism against Roma is a kind of Hungarian culture. All forgotten again reader or never knew? Anyone who is interested in Hungarian politics knows this. 🙂

Reader
Reader
February 16, 2024 12:18
Reply to  Don Kichote

Yes, I agree and am only too awareof the deeply rooted culture of racism that must be called out wherever and whenever. However, that is not the point that I was addressing. You cannot find evidence for your statement above on which I challenged you simply because it is not true!
The problem with making absurd claims as identified over the last few days is that, apart from being wrong, they discredit the blog. That is a great pity as Hungarian News has an honourable tradition of critical analysis and comment which is only undermined by silly tabloid-style statements.
The point has been made now and this is becoming tiresome. Let’s move on.

Don Kichote
Don Kichote
February 16, 2024 13:42
Reply to  Reader

Your Q. Please share your evidence for ‘But it doesn’t bother a single white Hungarian

My A. https://hungarian.news/wordpress/index.php/2024/02/15/february-15-2024/#comment-6933

You : „However, that is not the point that I was addressing.” ? 😀 “You cannot find evidence for your statement above on which I challenged you simply because it is not true!”

You can read PL’s interview with Balog in Pest Lloyd. The parliamentary ombudsman for minorities, Dr. Ernö Kallai, teacher, sociologist, Catholic, long active at the Gandhi High School in Pécs, uses the example of Gyöngyöspata, but also Érpatak and other places to clearly demonstrate: there is an intensified segregation of Roma schoolchildren, the public employment program is implemented “against human dignity”. Residents are subject to horrendous fines for the smallest offenses, without the basic right to a legal hearing. Other basic rights are simply ignored; the aim seems to be eviction. In addition, the work of the ombudsman, who has a parliamentary mandate, has been obstructed; the mayor of Gyöngyöspata has had him turned away several times.

These are just a few examples, there are many more, such as the list of Jews of parliamentarians and so on and so forth.

Everything is very easy to understand and in no way complicated.

tappanch
tappanch
February 15, 2024 16:49
Reply to  Don Kichote

live births in Hungary

2010:   90335
2011:   88049
2012:   90269
2013:   88689
2014:   91510
2015:   91690
2016:   93063
2017:   91577
2018:   89807
2019:   89193
2020:   92338
2021:   93039
2022:   88491
2023:   85200

https://www.ksh.hu/stadat_files/nep/hu/nep0067.html
https://www.ksh.hu/stadat_files/nep/hu/nep0040.html

tappanch
tappanch
February 15, 2024 17:06
Reply to  tappanch

The peak was under the Socialist governments:

2006: 99871
2008: 99149

wolf
wolf
February 16, 2024 16:55

It’s all over the Western media:
Alexej Nawalny died in the Gulag in Siberia.
His death was already written about by the EU president, the German chancellor, the British foreign minister etc.
His widow spoke at the conference in Munich.
Now it will be interesting to see whether and how Fidesz media in Orbanistan will report on this – and whether any Fidesz politicians will open their mouths …

Don Kichote
Don Kichote
February 16, 2024 17:32
Reply to  wolf

Alexei Navalny really had courage. If he hadn’t returned to Russia, he would have been shot, poisoned or thrown out of the window. An insider said that there are virtually no prisons, only those on remand can be found there. The convicts are sent to the gulag and from there many go to the front.

wolf
wolf
February 16, 2024 19:48
Reply to  wolf

This is not to say that the story of the killing of Navalny isn’t knowm in Hungary.
My wife just discussed it with our neighbour (who is 80 years old …) and they both were very sad and angry.
Still nothing in the Fidesztan press …

Don Kichote
Don Kichote
February 17, 2024 01:13
Reply to  wolf

This is consistent with what I have heard so far “he collapsed and died in the morning”. I don’t believe it was a natural death. Maybe it’s a reaction to Trump’s comments about telling Putin to do what he wants. ?

Yesterday, Aleksey Navalny spoke in court via video link. He seemed to be in good health and and even joked.

tappanch
tappanch
February 16, 2024 18:45

This is where Navalny died.

Kharp (Yamalo-Nenets)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FKU_IK-3,_Kharp

Michael Detreköy
Michael Detreköy
February 17, 2024 03:17
Reply to  Don Kichote

Look, the scenario was set many years ago.
There can’t be a real challenge to power in Putin’s Russia – that’s just the basic premise.
Navalnyis death was 100% predictable.

Michael Detreköy
Michael Detreköy
February 17, 2024 04:10

The effort Putin’s media machine (including Orbán’s) puts into cementing the death of Navalny
will directly reflect Kremlin politics.
Whatever western media propose, will be rejecte by reflex.

Ferenc
Ferenc
February 17, 2024 10:58

OV&Co’s propaganda about the “results” of the 1-Party-State latest National Constipation: 

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Only “99% Nem”?
Results like in old “komcsi” [=communist] times…

In those times Rákosi was “Stalin’s best pupil”
The current myghti lidur seems Putin’s best disciple!

but: Nem = NO, but also can mean GENDER!
So the other 1% is “Genderless” [Nemtelen]!

A myghti result for OV’s dancers, who don’t listen to Brussels’ small whistles and get moved by OV’s gigantic [a]social media Megafons only… 

Don Kichote
Don Kichote
February 17, 2024 11:29
Reply to  Ferenc

Good news for the proud Hungarian pedophile teachers from Greater Hungary who support Fidesz and who are supported by Fidesz. Gender is much worse than pedophilia or starving children, not to mention a dumbed-down nation. Hungarians are not going to let themselves be taken for a ride by the EU if they want to be something special?

Ferenc
Ferenc
February 17, 2024 11:46
Reply to  Ferenc

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Don Kichote
Don Kichote
February 17, 2024 11:48
Reply to  Ferenc

The German news reports that Orban only heard about the pardon later! A real democracy, so to speak.

tappanch
tappanch
February 17, 2024 16:43
Reply to  Ferenc

There is NO gender in the Hungarian language.

she = he = ő

Since there is no gender, the anti-gender propaganda is simply meaningless.

wolf
wolf
February 17, 2024 11:15

Has anyone seen any comment on the Navalny case on official media (TV, news, internet)?
OK, Telex etc report it but the vast majority of the state media seem to ignore it totally?
And of course you won’t hear/read anything from the Fidesz leaders – unlike the democratic countries where ministers, presidents etc remarked on this ugly case.
I’m thinking of several people in Hungary who should be sent to this Siberian Gulag wher Navalny died …

wolf
wolf
February 17, 2024 11:44
Reply to  wolf

Actually I’m waiting for the Hun leaders to congratulate Putin for getting rid of one of his last critics – maybe they are thinking of following him there?
Rent a Gulag in Siberia? Putin might offer a good price …

Don Kichote
Don Kichote
February 17, 2024 12:04
Reply to  wolf

„Rent a Gulag in Siberia?“ Warum in die Ferne schweifen wenn der Gulag liegt so nah. The comparison with Hungary is still a little off, but we are on the way. Or not?

Ferenc
Ferenc
February 17, 2024 12:05
Reply to  Don Kichote
Don Kichote
Don Kichote
February 17, 2024 12:21
Reply to  Ferenc

Why Recsk if I can order how long the workers have to work and for what wage and the date for the payday that I can also set by decree? Something like Gulag light and lots of tax revenue. 🙂

Ferenc
Ferenc
February 17, 2024 12:53
Reply to  Don Kichote

You’re right!
Orbanistan is in fact a renewed and enlarged Recsk!

Don Kichote
Don Kichote
February 17, 2024 13:12
Reply to  Ferenc

Do you know what they call the főnök of the gulag?

Ferenc
Ferenc
February 17, 2024 15:30
Reply to  Don Kichote

No idea, so enlight me.

Don Kichote
Don Kichote
February 17, 2024 17:17
Reply to  Ferenc

I have no idea about the Eastern hierarchy, in the West it was the Föhrrerr.

Ferenc
Ferenc
February 17, 2024 12:04
Reply to  wolf

This is how it “worked” within the 1-Party-State-“public”-Media

https://youtu.be/4NHxrQVRiWw?t=735

Former 1PS”p”M reporter: “For example it was not allowed to be negative about Russia. Putin is ‘our’ good friend. We had to pretend like Russia is a true democracy.”

Jan
Jan
February 17, 2024 12:13

Balog steps back from his leader position, but remains bishop.
He does not regret pleading for pardon for an innocent man. Another beautiful example of the clerics putting themselves above the law.
Home: Ten strong statements from Zoltán Balog’s resignation statement – from witch hunts to Facebook | hvg.hu
And it seems he had an early start with his plea.
Telex: Katalin Novák’s advisory board was not even formed when Zoltán Balog had already discussed Endre K.’s pardon with Novák

Don Kichote
Don Kichote
February 17, 2024 12:24
Reply to  Jan

“innocent man” The Hungarian judiciary has convicted an innocent man 😀 yes, that is possible.

Jan
Jan
February 17, 2024 13:08
Reply to  Don Kichote

True, but it was in three courtrooms.
The judges seem to believe the victims this time, not the delinquent 😉

Don Kichote
Don Kichote
February 17, 2024 13:21
Reply to  Jan

Once again Fidesz judges sentence a Fidesz collaborator for pedophile Fidesz directors whom a Fidesz bishop pardons. Sounds positive but also not … somehow. 🙂

Ferenc
Ferenc
February 17, 2024 15:58

OV’s “State of the [Pedo]-Union” is not open for the independent media, only by the myghti lidur financed media are welcomed in his “pleasure dome”.
Of course one should not think about what ‘im said, because all lies and some truths only leave his mouth for a purpose, to stay in power by manipulating and brainwashing other people.
The only useful task might be to get clear WHY* something is said by the 1-Party-State -Lidur…
 
Live blogs by some independent media
https://444.hu/2024/02/17/orban-eloszor-beszel-novak-katalin-lemondasa-ota
https://telex.hu/belfold/2024/02/17/orban-viktor-miniszterelnoki-evertekelo-kegyelmi-ugy
https://hvg.hu/itthon/20240217_Orban_Viktor_evertekeloje_megvedeneke_a_kordonok_a_kegyelembotrany_hullamaitol__ELO
 
*I am still thinking about WHY just over a week ago OV came with an urgent proposal to modify [again] the Constitutionn – could and did it help: 
–president Novak in the scandal? NO, on the contrary it made it worse for her!
–others in the scandal? NO!
–OV ‘ímselluf in the scandal? YES, YES, YES!
Yes, because it tried to appear that OV disagreed and was supposed to be not involved in the decision for giving pardon… imho this actually PROOFS that the myghti lidur was fully involved and then only tried to wash the guilt from his dirty hands.

tappanch
tappanch
February 17, 2024 16:38

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tappanch
tappanch
February 17, 2024 16:55

“Magyarország előre megy, nem hátra.”. (regime slogan)

Nem előre megy, hanem farhátra (my amendment)

From now on, the price of farhát (the cheap part of chicken carcasses) will contribute to the official calculation of the inflation.

https://hvg.hu/gazdasag/20240217_inflacio_csirke_far_hat_GPS_zsebszamologep_reprezentansok_ksh_arak_dragulas

Don Kichote
Don Kichote
February 17, 2024 21:32
Reply to  tappanch

Fidesz wrote up the past on the flags, Horthy – National Socialism – women who like to give birth , ergo forward to the past, when people were satisfied with inferior food because many had nothing. Who went to school back then and when someone died then it was the emaciation. Back then you could still buy a mud house with two oxen and the teacher didn’t know much more than the pupil, Orban’s paradise. Where a sack of potatoes is everything. It’s like sitting the wrong way round on a donkey that walks backwards.

Ferenc
Ferenc
February 18, 2024 00:23
Reply to  Don Kichote

riding a donkey?

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Don Kichote
Don Kichote
February 18, 2024 00:55
Reply to  Ferenc

Where do they run?

Wo-laufen-sie-denn
Michael Detreköy
Michael Detreköy
February 18, 2024 06:12
Reply to  Don Kichote

What the “Mighty Lidur” might see fit for an answer, comes in the “too late and thouroughly predictable” category.
Orbán’s time as a jester in in EU politics is over.
They see right through him.
As always, the money rules, and that’s where Orbán loses.
For any gain he might negotiate, there is a Hun net deficiet to match.

Last edited 2 months ago by Michael Detreköy
Phil S. Stine
Phil S. Stine
February 18, 2024 07:42
Reply to  Don Kichote
zsíros kenyér, anyone?
wolf
wolf
February 18, 2024 08:12
Reply to  Phil S. Stine

That’s exactly what my wife tells me, describing her youth.
And we poor Germans had to eat margarine – butter was on the table only on saturdays.

Phil S. Stine
Phil S. Stine
February 18, 2024 09:06
Reply to  wolf

My youth too, plenty of butter when we landed in Australia, no margarine for us lot! 🙂

wolf
wolf
February 18, 2024 10:52
Reply to  wolf

That was in West Germany of course. In East Germany and Hungary butter etc were “Bückware” (under the counter products):
Only if you paid extra or were a good friend of the store owner/salesperson would they bow down and fetch that product for you under the counter.

Don Kichote
Don Kichote
February 18, 2024 21:36

Is there already a translation of Orban’s speech on Saturday? I read that Orban said with reference to the pardon affair:

“You always have to be aware that even the greatest boxers like Muhammad Ali can be knocked down with one punch. It is therefore important to always stay on guard and preferably attack with a straight punch before being hit yourself. He added the biblical quote that “giving is better than receiving” to the sporting metaphor.

The Christian Orban has a strange way of interpreting faith.

tappanch
tappanch
February 19, 2024 11:25

The propaganda department of the Orban government has spent at least 1.360 trillion (10^12) forints in 8 years. This amount does not include the huge sums allocated to state television and radio channels.

https://g7.hu/kozelet/20240219/1360-milliardot-koltott-az-allam-a-rogan-fele-kommunikaciora-2015-ota/

tappanch
tappanch
February 19, 2024 11:29

MNB:
Net [gross consolidated] debt of the total Hungarian government
in 10^12 forints, on December 31 of each year

2019: +13.4683 -38.9330 = -25.4647 [-30.3584]
2020: +17.3233 -46.1394 = -28.8161 [-37.4617]
2021: +16.9064 -47.7481 = -30.8417 [-41.0966]
2022: +18.4037 -49.5809 = -31.1772 [-47.2977]
2023: +19.2167 -58.5319 = -39.3152 [-52.0611]

AKK:
gross debt of the central government

2019: -29.68197
2020: -36.68434
2021: -40.69701
2022: -45.56238
2023: -50.86518

tappanch
tappanch
February 19, 2024 16:19

Will Orban deploy the Chinese censorship tool, the Great Wall of Internet?

Orban met the Chinese minister of “public security” in Budapest two days ago.

“Wang also said that he hopes the two countries will deepen cooperation in areas including counter-terrorism, combating transnational crimes, security and law enforcement capacity ”

https://english.news.cn/europe/20240218/51fa37b8bb974d0c8a86e0b449193905/c.html

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Don Kichote
Don Kichote
February 19, 2024 18:06
Reply to  tappanch

Orban is outsourcing laws that are not EU-compliant. Orban runs his HunGarian company and the Chinese take over the supervision. Should the Chinese become a counterweight to the Hungarian secret service or just do the dirty work? One thing is already certain today – it doesn’t bode well.

wolf
wolf
February 19, 2024 18:07
Reply to  tappanch

Here’s what the European media have to say:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/19/china-offers-to-deepen-security-ties-with-hungary-orban
At the same time the Hun government refused any contact with the US senators visiting Budapest!!!

Don Kichote
Don Kichote
February 19, 2024 19:01
Reply to  wolf

I stumbled across this after reading. Somehow it fits together, but it sounds bad.

„‘China has a lot more to lose’: U.S. considering sanctioning Chinese firms aiding Russia’s war

tappanch
tappanch
February 20, 2024 17:16

#1
The opposition parties are fined again , they will not have any money to campaign for the June European and local elections.

Agency “ASz” plays a triple role, it is the
the prosecutor, the judge and the executor.

https://www.asz.hu/dokumentumok/23025.pdf

https://24.hu/belfold/2024/02/20/kozzetettek-az-asz-jelentest-az-ellenzeki-kampanypenzekrol-tobb-tizmillios-bunteteseket-kell-fizetniuk-a-partoknak/

#2
Everybody on Hungarian social security receives a free monthly magazine from the government. They government obtains addresses from the Soc Sec Administration without asking.

Front page: Orban is inside!.
Inside: Orban’s letter to the old folks with his photo.
Inside: a 2-page interview with Orban’s minister.

Don Kichote
Don Kichote
February 20, 2024 17:59
Reply to  tappanch

Orban’s usual method when his blackmail was not successful. He can’t do anything else. Thanks to Polt, it works fabulously.

tappanch
tappanch
February 20, 2024 17:26

The Tax Authority (NAV, former APEH) is also used to crush the opposition. or to exonerate friends of the regime.

#1
NAV arrests and handcuffs a director of Ivanyi’s persecuted church at 6 AM.

https://24.hu/belfold/2024/02/20/ivanyi-gabor-egyhaz-met-nav/

#2
The same NAV (and the chief prosecutor) are not willing to seriously investigate the disappearance of 32 billion forints of public money.

https://24.hu/belfold/2024/02/20/kozpenz-tamogatas-32-milliard-polt-peter-feljelentes-nav/

Don Kichote
Don Kichote
February 20, 2024 20:54

Fidesz abandons its boycott of Sweden’s ratification of NATO membership. There is speculation about a possible arms deal that is said to have been negotiated in the background between the two governments. Hungarian media close to the government reported that Hungary is likely to receive four Gripen fighter planes from Sweden. Sweden’s Prime Minister Ulf Kristersson will travel to Budapest on Friday for talks with Orbán. These are “almost” Orbán’s private fighter planes.

Ferenc
Ferenc
February 21, 2024 07:41
Reply to  Don Kichote

“likely to receive four Gripen fighter”

receive??? really?
BUY!!! imho more likely!

PS: costs could be deducted from teachers’ salary raises…

Don Kichote
Don Kichote
February 21, 2024 09:59
Reply to  Ferenc

I have no sympathy for Fidesz sympathizers, whoever votes for Fidesz gets Fidesz even if the teachers didn’t understand it. We don’t yet know what kind of blackmail Orban is using, only that there will be some. But four Gripen are worth joining.

Theestampe
Theestampe
February 21, 2024 13:25
Reply to  Don Kichote

I remember a post by Eva, after the loss of a Gripen in 2015, about the sad state of the Hungarian Air Force and the lack of flight time for HU pilots which most likely lead to the crash. Hungary currently has 12 combat aircraft which is not much. Adding another four is probably needed.

Don Kichote
Don Kichote
February 21, 2024 13:51
Reply to  Theestampe

I think for Orban it’s not about the planes but only about presenting his success to his disciples and excusing his move to Putin with a “deal he can’t refuse”. Only whether the “deal” will materialize is still written in the stars for us.

Pantanifan
Pantanifan
February 21, 2024 14:16

Hungary’s government doesn’t seem particularly bothered about Alexei Navalny’s death

https://telex.hu/english/2024/02/20/even-the-serbian-president-reacted-to-the-news-of-navalnys-death-but-orban-and-szijjarto-did-not

Don Kichote
Don Kichote
February 21, 2024 15:41
Reply to  Pantanifan

Perhaps the silent desire to do the same?

Don Kichote
Don Kichote
February 23, 2024 11:52
Reply to  Pantanifan

Orban’s friend, the right-wing nationalist Netanyahu, is massacring the Palestinians in Gaza, who are locked up in a camp. Four times already the Palestinians were supposed to go somewhere else so that Israel could bomb them with its heaviest weapons. Now they can enjoy exterminating the crammed people, who government officials publicly denigrate as animals that must be killed. Europe and the USA are guilty. Biden’s policy of supplying weapons for the massacre rivals the EU’s servility to Israel. All of Israel’s claims lack independent investigation. I personally believe with the tunnels under hospitals and schools, as well as all are guilty not a word. Back to Orban Kft. his wet dreams revolve around the annexation of lost territories outside the current borders back into the empire. How can he condemn Israel?

„Despite pressure from other capitals, Budapest has refused to agree to the demand for a ceasefire in Gaza, thereby also scuppering EU plans for collective sanctions against violent Israeli settlers. The proposals were first put forward in December following a new wave of attacks on Palestinians in the West Bank.“

Don Kichote
Don Kichote
February 21, 2024 14:16

Does anyone know the one from the street who owns Hungary? The one with the bald head is the one convicted of child abuse in the orphanage. 😀

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wolf
wolf
February 22, 2024 11:04

This morning I had a good laugh!
The post lady brought a letter, wrapped in plastic so at first I thought it might be something “dangerous for children”.
When my wife returned from our neighbour and saw the envelope she immediately went off:
Put that sh*t into the garbage immediately!
She had seen it at the neighbour’s place – who was also really angry about the millions (billions?) of Forint spent on …

JóKor
– a newsletter for pensioners with many colourful pictures, desribing how wonderful Fidesz, sorry the government treats them…
Of course the pensioners would prefer a raise but Hungary can’t afford this obviously because they need the money for the Fidesz honchos, their luxury cars, yachts and castles and of course some gangbangs in Brussels …
I’ve never ever seen two women in their seventies so full of hate!

Jan
Jan
February 22, 2024 17:52

The publication of journal that published the court-decision with the pardon included will be suspended until it is clear how this could have happened.
Felfüggesztik a Kúriai Döntések című folyóirat kiadását, amíg ki nem derül, hogyan kerülhetett bele a kegyelmi botrányt kirobbantó határozat (444.hu)
The social media posting of a torch march in Bicske and surrounding villages organised by Fidesz mayors and mayors close to Fidesz were deleted.
The posts of the torchlight peace march in Bicske disappeared without a trace (nepszava.hu)
On his day off in the butchers hotel the Viktor talked about how important women are in politics.
A nők pótolhatatlanok a politikában – mondta Orbán az évértékelőn, majd javasolt két férfit a távozó nők helyére (444.hu)
All traces of women in politics, and evidence that the child abuse ever existed will be destroyed asap.

Jan
Jan
February 22, 2024 18:36
Reply to  Jan

This article of 2015 is also worth reading, just Victor’s citations are enough. It is jaws-dropping.
Orbán elárulta, miért nem enged nőket a politika csúcsára (444.hu)

Don Kichote
Don Kichote
February 22, 2024 19:33
Reply to  Jan

Peace march in Bicske with torches from Fidesz sympathizers. I know torchlight marches from the KKK or from the Nazi SS and SA, but these were not peace marches. One problem is probably getting bigger and bigger to make the lies look conclusive.

wolf
wolf
February 22, 2024 19:25

The way that democratic values are manipulated (or just ignored …) in Hungary is fantastic!
The Economist Intelligence Unit has this report on the classification of states as democratic/partially democratic and so on – Hungary has place 50 in their ranking – as usual one of the lowest of EU states.
https://pages.eiu.com/rs/753-RIQ-438/images/Democracy-Index-2023-Final-report.pdf?version=0)
But Mandiner amd Hungary Today (another Fidesz mouthpiece, sometimes really funny) claim that Orbanistan is among the greatest democracies!

tappanch
tappanch
February 22, 2024 19:48

The official monthly salary of Orban is $18,000.
The salary of Biden is $33,300.

While Orban earns 54% of the salary of the US president, the population of Hungary is less than 2.8% of the US population, while the Hungarian GDP is only 0.7% of the US number.

Don Kichote
Don Kichote
February 22, 2024 21:57
Reply to  tappanch

I seem to remember Orban’s first tax return when he declared a Trabant as an asset … or was it a one-room apartment. But if Orban flies to a soccer game with friends to somewhere else in a military plane, that’s a lot more expensive than $18,000.

tappanch
tappanch
February 23, 2024 02:34

The rulers of Transnistria want to join Russia. Putin will accept their request in 6 days.
If this is true, expect a Russian attack on Odessa – sooner or later.

Moldova and Ukraine should have taken Transnistria in the last two years.
It is just a 5 to 10 km wide strip of land.

Population: 0.36 million

Ethnicity: Russian 29%, Romanian 29%, Ukrainian 23%.

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https://www.infotag.md/rebelion-en/314040/

Don Kichote
Don Kichote
February 23, 2024 10:54

A new stamp pad and servant of Orban. Orban Kft …

Supreme Constitutional Court judge Tamás Sulyok becomes Hungary’s new president

Hungary’s President Katalin Novák resigned due to a paedophilia affair. Now the ruling party is presenting her successor: a confidant of Viktor Orbán.

Supreme Constitutional Court judge a confidant of Viktor Orbán. 😀

wolf
wolf
February 23, 2024 11:18
Reply to  Don Kichote

What else did you expect?
Fidesz is still hoping to “win” the elections in June for the EU parliament.
It will be interesting to see what happens …

Don Kichote
Don Kichote
February 23, 2024 12:12
Reply to  wolf

What else did you expect? A dyslexic who has to copy from others or someone who stands beside himself and helps to drive children into hunger with his party so that he and his wife can work “for” children à la Mother Teresa. Or someone who fervently licks Orban’s saliva. That’s what I expect.

Don Kichote
Don Kichote
February 23, 2024 12:43
Reply to  Don Kichote

Sulyok´s old law firm was also connected to Fidesz by numerous threads. The independence of the court from the law is guaranteed.

Sulyok was appointed 10 yrs ago to the Court, by Orbán’s 2/3 majority, then became its Chief Justice in 2016. Since then, the Court has delivered decisions mostly reflecting the will of the ruling party. His old law firm was also connected to Fidesz by numerous threads. (2/3) “

wolf
wolf
February 24, 2024 20:02

(in)famous right wingers organization CPAC which a few years ago was also active in Budapest has its conference this weekend in Maryland.
Main speaker of course is D Trump. His crazy rantings about Biden’ss deep state etc are almost funny …
Does anyone know who represents Fidesz there?

Ferenc
Ferenc
February 25, 2024 02:52
Reply to  wolf

Found on https://agenda.m.cpac.org/agenda/friday [fr.Feb.23]
*Sebastian Gorka (9:10 AM-9:25 AM) General Session
Featuring: Sebastian Gorka, Host of America First
*CPAC Hungary (9:35 AM-9:45 AM) General Session 
Featuring: Miklos Szantho, Director General of the [Pardon] Center for Pedomental Rights

And for the UK: Brexit couple Truss & Farage
source: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/21/liz-truss-deep-state-cpac-far-right

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wolf
wolf
February 25, 2024 08:21
Reply to  Ferenc

Thanks, missed this somehow
Now if you want to see the real crazyness of the right wing, look for this book:
https://www.dailysignal.com/2024/01/15/last-warning-west-from-concerned-ally/
Orbanistan is the best!

Phil S. Stine
Phil S. Stine
February 25, 2024 07:25

Just googled, looks like there is no Australian representation at this years CPAC … would’ve thought they’d find a place for Tony ‘stop the boats’ Abbott.

wolf
wolf
February 25, 2024 12:39

Great news!
The next CPAC meeting will be April 2024 in Budapest.
If you want to read something unbelievabls (and funny in a way) this is it:
https://dailynewshungary.com/trump-and-orban-can-only-achieve-peace-in-ukraine/

Michael Detreköy
Michael Detreköy
February 25, 2024 13:57
Reply to  wolf

For seasoned independent thinkers, like you and others on this blog, It’s not difficult to see through the Far-Right propaganda -But – for the young and undecided, the propaganda is steadily and effectively grooming unsuspecting masses through social media.

Ferenc
Ferenc
February 25, 2024 13:58
Reply to  wolf

2024 April 24, well that’s just more than a month before the combined elections [EU & municipalities]. 
“Of course” costs will not be seen as part of campaign and coverage by 1-Party-State-“public”-Media not as propaganda…

Don Kichote
Don Kichote
February 26, 2024 17:47
Reply to  wolf

Aaron Rupar writes „ How Comer and company learned to love Russian disinformation The Biden bribery smear was obvious Kremlin bullcrap. Republicans don’t care.

Kremlin bullcrap and Republicans don’t care. Fidesz and co. are among them. There are also Republicans who don’t fall for Trump or Putin. According to Kyle Griffin, the “results of the 2024 Republican primary/caucus were:

Iowa: 49% voted for someone other than Trump
New Hampshire: 45% voted for someone other than Trump
South Carolina: 40% voted for someone other than Trump “.

Will the 40-50% vote for Biden when it counts or not vote at all?

Michael Detreköy
Michael Detreköy
February 25, 2024 23:36

Tomorrow, Macron host’s an informal Paris summit on Ukraine.
We are witnessing a historic coordination of the (so far, idling) European war machine.
Obviously not good news for peace-loving folks, and certainly bad news for Putin, but for anyone investing in the military hardware buisness, “good” news should be expected.

During these hard times, we see how the “hawks” are gradually taking control.
Where will the EU sit in this predicament?

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tappanch
tappanch
February 26, 2024 18:04

There is a strong chance that new figurehead president of Hungary, Tamas Sulyok lied about his father’s past.

He claimed in a 2020 interview to a Transylvanian publication that

#1
his father was sentenced to death, in absentia, by a Hungarian People’s court in 1946.

Mr Sulyok alleged in this interview that the reason for the death sentence was his father’s legal role in a post-war divorce case in Szekesfehervar.

This is almost impossible.

The people’s courts were run by the coalition parties in 1945-1947, not by the Communist party alone. They acquitted plenty of 1941-1945 murderers, condemned to death less than 500, of which less less than 130 were actually executed [if my memory is correct].

#2
His father lived in illegality (under false name) in Hungary between 1946 and 1956.

This is unlikely.

But there is an example, Mihaly Francia-Kiss, one of the most prominent 1919 pogromist murderers of Orgovany was condemned to death in 1948, lived under an assumed name between 1948 and 1957, finally caught in May 1957 and executed in August 1957.

Sulyok: “I was born in [March of] 1956, my father’s papers were ready by then”
and his father worked as a lawyer again from 1957. Incredible

Why doesn’t Mr Sulyok reveal his father’s real name even now?

https://kronikaonline.ro/erdelyi-hirek/sulyok-tamas-kolozsvaron-az-alkotmanybirosag-elnoke-szerint-az-egykori-meghurcoltak-peldaja-a-szabadsag-vallalasarol-szol

Otherwise, T. Sulyok was a lawyer. Orban made him a member and later the chairman of the “Constitutional” Court (in a country without constitution), where he served Orban’s wishes faithfully in the last 10 years,

https://hvg.hu/itthon/20240222_A_jogallamisagtol_es_a_technologiaig_Tiz_eros_mondat_Sulyok_Tamas_interjuibol

tappanch
tappanch
February 26, 2024 18:59
Reply to  tappanch

Summary numbers of the People’s Courts (1945-1949)

Cases: 90,551
of which
indictments: 42,066

Sentences before appeal:
death: 477

prison:
life: 167,
10-15 years: 481,
5-10 years: 1,355
1-5 years: 9,366
less than 1 year: 12,629

not in prison:
internment: 16,
forced labor: 2,291

Therefore not convicted: 15,284 (out of 42,066 indicted)

https://epa.oszk.hu/00600/00617/00099/pdf/EPA00617_tortenelmi_szemle_1985_1_118-140.pdf

tappanch
tappanch
February 26, 2024 19:06
Reply to  tappanch

Executed: 189 (out of 477 sentenced to death)

See page 138 in the source above.

Don Kichote
Don Kichote
February 26, 2024 19:28
Reply to  tappanch

„Mr Sulyok alleged in this interview that the reason for the death sentence was his father’s legal role in a post-war divorce case in Szekesfehervar.“ Divorce by shooting them?

tappanch
tappanch
February 26, 2024 20:56

Hungarian foreign minister Szijjarto is visiting Iran and gave an interview to the official “Islamic Republic News Agency” published February 26

“when it comes to the American ambassador to Budapest, he has a double function. He is an American ambassador and leader of the Hungarian opposition. Actually. So he interferes with domestic issues. He makes statements which are totally unacceptable.”

Q: [cca]: Confirm that the US and Soros do not only finance the opposition in Iran but in Hungary too

A. Szijjarto is happy to confirm it.

“during the last elections was, that it was so suspicious that all the opposition parties, seven of them, from far right to the far left,[…] they were on the same ticket. And it turned out that tens of millions of dollars had been invested into them from the United States.”

“So in order not to allow any more such foreign interference to take place in Hungary, we have been implementing a strict law which aims at the protection of the sovereignty of the country, which will make it very complicated, let’s put it this way, to interfere by financial means into domestic issues in Hungary. But it’s obvious, I mean, it’s not a secret, it’s open, that many media outlets in Hungary, which are supposed to be independent, as they say, and many so-called NGOs, are being financed by foreign sources. And the network of George Soros is definitely among the number one financiers.”

https://en.irna.ir/news/85398206/Sanctions-made-Iran-Hungary-economic-ties-challenging-but-not

wolf
wolf
February 26, 2024 21:22
Reply to  tappanch

It’s really telling that Szijarto has good connections to Iran – as well as Russia, China, whatever countries?
Of course he’s not interested in Sweden etc …
What these guys don’t get obviously:
Orbanistan’s image in the democratic West is as bad as that of any fascist/terrorist/ you name it … state
Only Trump and his fans in CPAC etx connect there.

Don Kichote
Don Kichote
February 27, 2024 11:39
Reply to  tappanch

„… we have been implementing a strict law which aims at the protection of the sovereignty of the country …“

The sovereignty of the country … is the will of a Hungarian psychopath. He has never concealed what kind of person he is. From my point of view, he is a victim of his upbringing and really no great exception to the people. It just sucks if you don’t belong to the ruling psychopaths even though you are a psychopath.

Another side is not funny today when the disclosure of grievances leads to the loss of sovereignty of the country, which seems ridiculous, the grievance itself is not decisive but causal. All that is needed is proof, be it constructed, that money has flowed from a to b. Of course, this requires a full investigation by state authorities, even if it takes years … Orbanstyle.

Don Kichote
Don Kichote
February 27, 2024 16:43
Reply to  tappanch

About the sovereignty of the country “In 9 years Fidesz has spent 1360 billion forints of taxpayer funds (the equivalent of 3,5 billion euros!) on propaganda, to tell Hungarians that everything’s going smooth and well. With that kind of money they could probably have made everything actually work well!” https://twitter.com/MartonTompos/status/1760650655155236976

tappanch
tappanch
February 27, 2024 09:59

Insider information from the former husband of the former justice minister:

When he objected to a planned amendment to the “Basic Law” in a government meeting on moral grounds, Orban told him:

‘we do not keep you here to have moral objections’.

Orban about the European financial support to Hungary:

‘If Ii were Brussels, I would not give a penny to [my government]. But they are not brave enough to do this.’

https://24.hu/belfold/2024/02/27/magyar-peter-fidesz-orban-viktor-rogan-antal-karmelita/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC-79xXadzE

tappanch
tappanch
February 27, 2024 11:12
Reply to  tappanch

Correction:

When his former wife objected to a planned amendment to the “Basic Law” in a government meeting on moral grounds, Orban told her:

‘we do not keep you here to have moral objections’.

Don Kichote
Don Kichote
February 27, 2024 11:54
Reply to  tappanch

“… objections on moral grounds …” 😀 What kind of morality could that be? Serious question …

tappanch
tappanch
February 28, 2024 00:12

János Csák is Orban’s minister of “Culture and Innovation”.

(There is no minister of Health or minister of Education in today’s Hungary.
The minister of Interior oversees the police, the health care and the education.)

Let us see what Mr Csák did today.

#1
He ordered five museums and the National Library merged under the leadership of a proven uncultured Transylvanian guy.

I expect massive destruction of books and artifacts that do not fit in the regime’s current doctrinaire view of history, which praises every Dark Age of Hungary.

https://444.hu/2024/02/27/csak-janos-szerint-demeter-szilard-az-erot-landzsahegykent-tartva-fejezi-majd-ki-az-ev-minden-egyes-napjan-a-magyart-es-ehhez-megkapta-hat-muzeum-iranyitasat

#2
He opened the ball of the “vitez order”. The racist “vitez order” was created by Horthy in 1920, banned in 1945 as a Fascist organization.

The resurrected order proclaims a pro-Putin view these days.

https://telex.hu/zacc/2023/02/27/csak-janos-miniszter-koszontojevel-indult-a-horthysta-vitezi-rend-balja

tappanch
tappanch
February 28, 2024 00:42

Orban’s unqualified bald heads, both from Transylvania:

Szilárd Demeter, the culture Tsar.

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András Zs Varga, the head of the Supreme Court (“Kuria”)

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tappanch
tappanch
February 28, 2024 01:20
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Don Kichote
Don Kichote
February 28, 2024 11:06
Reply to  tappanch

From a European point of view, Szilárd Demeter is an uneducated regulars’ table redneck.

Michael Detreköy
Michael Detreköy
February 28, 2024 10:36

It’s been a while since we heard any news from this lot.
They seem far from being able to resume the honeymoon.
https://www.rferl.org/a/visegrad-hungary-poland-czech-slovakia-disunity/32837670.html

wolf
wolf
February 28, 2024 10:55

Reading this I almost went crazy …
Orbán said. “Hungary has another issue, namely that it wants to avoid having a joint border with Russia again, as it had bad experiences in the past,” he added. “One of the most important baselines of Hungarian national security is to have an entity between us and Russia. We help Ukraine also out of our own national interest,” he said.
Source: dailynewshungary.com https://dailynewshungary.com/pm-orban-does-not-believe-in-ukrainian-victory/
So he wants a buffer zone where Russians can rape, torture and kill thousands of people without hurting Hungary?
How nice …

Michael Detreköy
Michael Detreköy
February 28, 2024 12:45
Reply to  wolf

Some “help” indeed!

wolf
wolf
February 28, 2024 14:15

So now for some good news:
The EP voted for new rules on political advertising, independence etc.
More than three forth of the members agreed – but Hungary voted against, because these rules allowed “Soros” sympathisers to do political advertising when it should be obvious that in Hungary only Fidesz is allowed to advertise.
https://dailynewshungary.com/orbans-fidesz-will-not-accept-brussels-rules-on-political-ads/
These guys are so crazy …
But the astonishing news is that almost nobody voted with them, less than 10 %against the laws plus a few abstentions.
So even the right wing could not agree at all with Russia’s supporter/ slave Hungary.

wolf
wolf
February 28, 2024 15:53
Reply to  wolf

And it gets even worse:
Navalny’s widow was invited to speak to the European Parliament – just before she started all Fideszniks stood up and left …
Does anyone maybe know a video of this ugly behaviour?

Don Kichote
Don Kichote
February 28, 2024 17:57
Reply to  wolf

If they hadn’t come, they wouldn’t have had to go. 🙂

Michael Detreköy
Michael Detreköy
February 28, 2024 18:18
Reply to  wolf

Anyone else walked out?

Istvan (Chicago)
Istvan (Chicago)
February 28, 2024 17:19

This story was fascinating https://magyarnemzet.hu/kulfold/2024/02/orban-viktor-szavaira-reagalt-a-kreml#google_vignette (title in translation “The Kremlin reacted to Viktor Orbán’s words.”

It was about a statement Orban made a day ago that Russia does not pose a threat to those states from which it is not threatened and that he did not want a common border with Russia either.

Putin’s mouthpiece Dmitri Peskov said Orban had nothing to worry about with Russia at all. It seems the Russians are worrying that Orban who they know is a political shapeshifter may be evolving in the direction of NATO yet again.

Don Kichote
Don Kichote
February 28, 2024 18:35

Orban speaks openly and bluntly about his future conquests in the east, but he will inevitably have to reckon with the Russians. The fact that he is expressing concerns about Russia is fodder for his people.

Michael Detreköy
Michael Detreköy
February 28, 2024 22:05
Reply to  Don Kichote

wishfull thinking becoming law in Hungary, doesn’t necessarily apply beyond Hungarian borders.

Don Kichote
Don Kichote
February 29, 2024 09:46

The Ukrainians have a fighting force called the Birds of Hungary.

Michael Detreköy
Michael Detreköy
February 29, 2024 11:33
Reply to  Don Kichote

A drone unit, by the looks of it. Could also be “borrowed feathers”.

Don Kichote
Don Kichote
February 29, 2024 16:55

Yes, it’s probably a drone unit, I saw a video in which they blew up a moving car of Chinese origin. Good thing Xi didn’t see it.

Michael Detreköy
Michael Detreköy
March 1, 2024 09:39

I think you draw the wrong conclusion here. If Orbán intends to change course, he would have to prepare very carefully. Change his tune and carry out much diplomatic work before anyone but the far right nationalists would begin to take him seriously.
On the surface, well perhaps, but then not really, because he only echoe’s Putin’s narrative, in a mirrored version. That’s another blatant attempt at further influencing Hungary into accepting Putin’s thinking.
If you look at Orbán’s latest interaction with Nato, everybody got what they wanted.
Putin got a view of how easily the alliance’s decision-making is impaired by one smaller member (as ordered) and Hungary keeps recieving the gas and oil flowing from Russia.
Swedish arms manufacturers most probably benefit from dealing with a corrupt regime, in the long run and you don’t hear any complaints from Sweden.

Istvan (Chicago)
Istvan (Chicago)
March 1, 2024 15:34

The US has pretty much abandoned Ukraine and the EU has done an admirable job trying to keep the Ukrainians from collapse.

I suspect if Biden is re-elected military aid to Ukraine will flow, but it will be under a cloud year to year for any future Biden administration. The USA is now immediately faced with a vast ecological crisis due to climate change related disasters that are spreading. That crisis is costing astronomical amounts of money (coming from the FEMA budget and State budgets see https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/09/27/government-shutdown-fema-disaster-aid-delays/ ) and is combined with the potential of parts of the California coast becoming inhabitable, on-going wildfires, simultaneously occurring with rain events destroying highways in many places. Our migrant crisis is not ending because parts of Central America have crossed the threshold of average temperatures that are destroying economies and promoting crime driving people to seek refuge in the USA.

If Trump is elected it is likely there will be no more military aid at all coming from the USA for Ukraine and even our support for NATO is in question. Trump will use our military to stop border crossings and will be applauded for doing so if he gets elected and stays out of jail.

Neither Orban nor even Tusk in Poland want a Russian military presence immediately across their border with Ukraine which is indeed something Putin might want reestablished if he has either an outright victory or a forced peace settlement imposed on Ukraine.

Don Kichote
Don Kichote
March 1, 2024 17:33

I doubt that Orban has a problem with a common border with Putin’s Russia. Orban has certainly talked to Putin about the old territories long time ago. Orban is said to have spoken openly about the division of Ukraine in the V4 group, there was even an article about it. Orban was quoted as saying that one part should go to Poland long before the Ukraine war. Orban wanted a common policy against the EU. This also explains the nationalist foreign policy not only in Transylvania as stringent. Why should Orban have a problem with a common border if he is successful? I see no logical reason.

Don Kichote
Don Kichote
March 1, 2024 18:53

Here is a funny rel. new article about how afraid Orban is of a Russian border. Isn’t the far-right party Our Homeland part of Orban’s conglomerate? He has probably delegated his old goals to his speakeasies.

Far-right parties in Hungary and Romania are making plans for a future in which Russia wins the war against Ukraine. Because then they want to divide up Ukraine.”

Istvan (Chicago)
Istvan (Chicago)
February 28, 2024 17:38

This article from Russia offers a so called peace deal to Ukraine that would be a best a bitter one https://globalaffairs.ru/articles/ulovka-24/

Essentially the Ukrainians would surrender all the occupied territories and not become part of NATO as a precondition.

It is hard to imagine the Servant of the People Party in Ukraine agreeing with anything like that unless complete collapse was inevitable with Russian troops inside of Kyiv itself. Then of course Putin would be adding additional conditions like requiring the removal of Zelensky and all those he declared to be Nazis from the government.